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		<title>Discipline envy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Goodall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Black, the BBC's online environment correspondent, attracted attention when he noticed that almost all climate sceptics are men. Instead, he might have chosen to comment that many of them were social scientists with leanings towards economics. Coincidentally, economics is populated by males. It is only this year that the first woman won the subject's Nobel prize, and her work would not be regarded as part of the subject by many academic purists. Sceptics Nigel Lawson, Steven Levitt, Bjørn Lomborg, and others all think about the world as economists. That's probably more important than that they are male.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.carboncommentary.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/male_economists.png" alt="" title="" width="100" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1071" />Richard Black, the BBC&#8217;s online environment correspondent, attracted attention when he <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/richardblack/2009/12/cop15_questions_about_sex.html" target="_blank">noticed</a> that almost all climate sceptics are men. Instead, he might have chosen to comment that many of them were social scientists with leanings towards economics. Coincidentally, economics is populated by males. It is only this year that the first <a href="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economics/laureates/2009/press.html" target="_blank">woman</a> won the subject&#8217;s Nobel prize, and her work would not be regarded as part of the subject by many academic purists. Sceptics Nigel Lawson, Steven Levitt, Bjørn Lomborg, and others all think about the world as economists. That&#8217;s probably more important than that they are male.</p>
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<p>My hypothesis is that the growing scepticism of economists is a reaction to the decline in the public standing of the subject: it is a symptom of increasing <em>discipline envy</em> as other academic subjects supplant economics as the place where alpha male academics congregate.<a title="footnoteref1" name="footnoteref1" href="#footnote1">[1]</a> Climate change is a threat to the status of the profession so it is no surprise that economists are among the most vociferous opponents of what they increasingly call the &#8216;alarmism&#8217; of climate scientists. They are reacting as groups under threat always do &#8211; lashing out at those that seem to be replacing them. Economics overreached itself, promising limitless prosperity and happiness for all if we all followed its simple rules. Climate change is one of the many indications that suggest that economics got it badly wrong. The consequent rise of subjects that many economists hold in contempt, such as psychology and ecology, has infuriated some in the profession and helped caused it to retreat into baleful scepticism.</p>
<p>As Tim Jackson&#8217;s powerful and honest book <a href="http://www.earthscan.co.uk/ESAffiliate/product.aspx?aid=41&amp;pid=92763&amp;dn=www.earthscan.co.uk" target="_blank"><em>Prosperity without Growth</em></a> (advertised by its publisher on this site) points out, the economists led many countries, particularly Anglo-Saxon ones, down a path of aggressive individualism, telling us that our choices of what to consume would give us all contentment and would help efficiently allocate scarce resources between competing demands. The standard recommendations of economists may well turn out to have been catastrophically destructive to planetary ecology &#8211; Jackson certainly seems to think so. But you can certainly understand that the people who genuinely believe that ruthless pursuit of economic self-interest leads to maximum happiness have problems with Professor Jackson&#8217;s idea that economics loosened the claims of morality and made ecological problems more, not less, severe.</p>
<p>Economists increasingly often express incomprehension why the world takes any notice of the scientific papers on global warming. Their view is that much climate science is unduly abstracted from the real world. It ignores economic forces, such as the drive for efficiency in the use of resources, which will moderate greenhouse gas emissions. When the price of fossil fuels goes up, say economists, usage will go down. Secondly, scientists, say the envious economists, fail ever to understand the principles of cost benefit analysis. Restraining temperature rises is costly and without complex analysis we can&#8217;t simply decide that it wouldn’t be better to let the temperatures rise and adapt to the change. So people like Lord Lawson and Lomborg dress up their scepticism by telling us just how expensive actually doing something about climate is going to be.</p>
<p>Unlike physical scientists, economists are taught not to believe in tipping points or rapid inflections. The predictions of the alarmists seem incomprehensible: there are bound to be feedbacks that damp the impact of CO2 rise, the economists say. I cannot remember a curve in the textbooks of the great economist <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8497b0e8-e84f-11de-8a02-00144feab49a.html" target="_blank">Paul Samuelson</a>, who died this week, that wasn’t smooth and predictable. The vertiginous abrupt changes in climate systems are simply not comprehensible to the average neo-classically trained economist. The burgeoning social movements, such as Avaaz, are treated with contempt by some of those aligned with the economic sceptics – why should any single individual do anything, they say, when this is a problem affecting everybody in the world? Generous, altruistic actions are anathema to economics which deals only in cold exchange and rational calculus. Unsurprisingly, economists have fixated on these differences between their world views and those of the physical sciences and swung away from belief in climate change.</p>
<p>This generation of economists will probably never get over their discipline envy. The powerful rarely adapt to a loss of authority and influence. But until the economics profession gets used to the idea that their subject is a small planet at the edge of the intellectual solar system, it will continue to impede progress towards climate safety.<a title="footnoteref2" name="footnoteref2" href="#footnote2">[2]</a></p>
<p><strong>Footnotes</strong><br />
<a title="footnote1" name="footnote1" href="#footnoteref1">[1]</a> Thank you to Jonathan Sinclair Wilson, managing director of publishers Earthscan for coining the phrase &#8216;discipline envy&#8217;.<br />
<a title="footnote2" name="footnote2" href="#footnoteref2">[2]</a> Disclosure: I trained as an economist and briefly taught it at university.</p>
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		<title>Sceptic Ian Plimer on global warming: &#8216;my theories are more evocative and sensual&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Goodall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Professor Ian Plimer is one of the most influential global warming sceptics. A university academic in Australia, his trenchant views on climate change have helped persuade opposition politicians in his home country to back away from supporting schemes to reduce emissions. His book Heaven and Earth: Global Warming: The Missing Science remains a best-seller in the UK.]]></description>
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<p>Professor Ian Plimer is one of the most influential global warming sceptics. A university academic in Australia, his trenchant views on climate change have helped persuade opposition politicians in his home country to back away from supporting schemes to reduce emissions. His book <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0704371669?tag=lowcarlif-21&amp;camp=1406&amp;creative=6394&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=0704371669&amp;adid=10ST5E6K7FSJCA35ER76&amp;" target="_blank"><em>Heaven and Earth: Global Warming: The Missing Science</em></a> (<a href="http://www.carboncommentary.com/2009/11/03/844">reviewed here last month</a>) remains a best-seller in the UK.</p>
<p>He spoke in central London on 1 December at a meeting organized by the anti-EU United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP). The material in the talk was largely taken from his book, though his language was even more open and unrestrained. Unsurprisingly, in view of the controversy over the content of recently exposed CRU emails, he repeatedly used the word &#8216;fraud&#8217; or &#8216;fraudulent&#8217; to characterize the views of his opponents. He described his critics as &#8216;rent-seekers&#8217; who spent their time seeking out the next research grant.</p>
<p>This article takes a small number of the more controversial statements made by Professor Plimer and sets them against the standard scientific view.</p>
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<p><strong>The role of CO2 in climate change</strong><br />
The burning of fossil fuels and the cutting down of forests adds to CO2 in the atmosphere. Carbon dioxide acts as a blanket, assisting the world&#8217;s atmosphere in retaining heat. More CO2 means more heat retention, say the textbooks. If we continue adding global warming gases, global temperatures will rise.</p>
<p>Does Plimer agree with this? During the talk he said that &#8216;doubling CO2 would have very little effect on temperature&#8217;. Higher CO2 levels in the future would have &#8216;negligible&#8217; impact. At another time he said it would have absolutely no effect.</p>
<p>In a brief chat after the speech, I asked the professor to be more specific. What was his estimate of the impact so far on global temperatures of the CO2 mankind has added to the atmosphere? &#8217;0.1 to 0.3 degrees&#8217; (Celsius) was his response. The conventional scientific answer to this question might be about three times this figure.</p>
<p>Professor Plimer went on to say that his figures are lower than the IPCC estimates because the standard science is wrong about the absorption of CO2 in natural sinks such as the oceans. The typical residence time of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is seven or eight years, he said. This is a much, much lower figure than proposed by conventional science. The standard view, sometimes called the Bern Carbon Cycle model, sees some of a pulse of new CO2 being removed rapidly from the atmosphere but also suggests that a portion remains for hundreds of years.</p>
<p>I responded to Professor Plimer&#8217;s remark by asking how his views on the rapid absorption of CO2 by natural sinks could be compatible with the observed yearly growth in the atmospheric concentrations of the gas since the beginning of the industrial revolution. In 1800, CO2 accounted for about 280 parts per million of the global atmosphere. Since then, concentrations have risen to nearly 390 ppm. CO2 arising from fossil fuel combustion has a different mix of carbon isotopes to the existing ambient gas. From many analyses using this and other parts of science we know that approximately half the CO2 added to the atmosphere by man is still there. (In the body of his talk the professor asserted that the assessment of how much fossil fuel CO2 is entering the atmosphere comes from a &#8216;dodgy calculation&#8217; and he does not accept isotope analysis as a way of determining the source of carbon dioxide.) I wanted to understand how Plimer&#8217;s views on the short life of CO2 in the atmosphere could be made consistent with the rate of rise of observed CO2 levels since industrialization began.</p>
<p>He answered by saying that science was wrong to assume that the pre-industrial atmosphere held 280 parts per million of CO2. It was actually much higher, he said. The net addition to global CO2 levels by the burning of fossil fuel is therefore implicitly substantially lower than science suggests. Plimer says that measuring techniques are inadequate and that proper measurement would show that nineteenth- and early-twentieth-century CO2 levels were much higher than is assumed and very much more variable. He said to me that the belching of carbon dioxide by volcanoes would, for example, have produced short-lived but large rises in greenhouse gas concentrations. The charts that show stable atmospheric concentrations prior to the industrial revolution are therefore wrong, Plimer said.</p>
<p>In the body of the talk Professor Plimer attacked the quality of even today&#8217;s Mauna Loa data. He said that the measurement techniques were flawed and that the nearby volcano emits considerable amounts of CO2 which affects the quality of the record. 86% of all the observations were rejected, he said, and only data that accorded with the scientists&#8217; prejudices was used. The professor did not, however, mention that many other sites around the world also measure CO2 concentrations and all of these stations report the same trend. (Absolute levels are different, inter alia, because of seasonal variations in CO2 concentration in different parts of the world resulting from plant growth.)</p>
<p>In the space of a short conversation, Professor Plimer attacked the foundations of climate science. He said that we overestimate the impact of CO2 on climate, that carbon dioxide is absorbed by sinks very rapidly, and, finally, that the standard measures of greenhouse gas levels over the last two hundred years are substantially in error, both now and in the past. In other words, almost everything that mainstream science believes about carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is incorrect. Fifty years&#8217; work from scientists working independently all over the world on these issues has been misdirected, flawed, biased, and ignorant.</p>
<p>The assertion that scientists have systematically understated CO2 levels before the industrial revolution is particularly striking. To my knowledge, no one else has ever recently suggested that the stable pre-industrial level of 280 ppm is substantially inaccurate. The sources of this figure, such as measurements from the air trapped in ice cores, are usually considered to provide robust information. The number of scientists in the world who accept Professor Plimer&#8217;s views on this issue is vanishingly small. As far as I know, none of the other leading sceptics agree with him on this issue.</p>
<p>But he has to believe that the standard charts are wrong, even if this makes him even more at odds with the scientific establishment on this issue than other sceptics. If CO2 has risen by over 100 ppm in the last couple of centuries, he would have to accept that the gas has a much longer residence time in the atmosphere than he hypothesizes. And this would be incompatible with his view that CO2 is only responsible for &#8217;0.1 to 0.3&#8242; degrees of the rise in temperature since large-scale burning of fossil fuels began.</p>
<p>However, Professor Plimer had not even been consistent about whether world temperatures had risen at all. At some points in the body of his talk, he said that levels were rising, but this is &#8216;normal&#8217;. At other points, he said it was falling or stable. At yet other moments, he acknowledged some regional warming but said that large areas of the globe were getting colder. I believe that a dispassionate observer listening to Professor Plimer would have struggled to understand what he really believed about temperature rises, absolute CO2 levels or, most importantly, the effect of CO2 levels on temperature.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, he railed strongly against the theoreticians and the careful scientists who work on climate change. His principal charge was that they never go out into the real world to make their own observations. He said that they were &#8216;people in basements&#8217; running computer models to appeal to their political masters and that only the sceptics were real scientists. Conventional science and its models made you &#8216;bang your head with boredom&#8217;. By contrast, he said that his thoughts on climate change provided a &#8216;far more evocative and sensual&#8217; story and are therefore more likely to be right than conventional science.<br />
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